I think the big difference here is BC of the cartridges listed along with twist rate. A good recoil pad with a well-designed stock can help to reduce the recoil to some extent. Sorry folks I just couldnt help myself. I just got back from Namibia with over 17 head of game killed by the 6.5 x 284 from 150 to over 500 yards. Don, Yup the ole 30-06 has been around longer than Im old.lol I have one in the m1. There isnt a stark difference in the recoil of the two cartridges, as they are both used for long-term hunting. This causes many a fevered dream for long-range hunters. It is also quite expensive to buy ammunition for this caliber. Anyone shooting over 500 yards at game had better really know their equipment, shooting conditions especially the wind, how to have a very solid position/stance, etc and have practiced continuously before going hunting. Additionally, a muzzle brake can be attached to the barrel or muzzle of the firearm to counter the recoil. Quantserve sets the mc cookie to anonymously track user behaviour on the website. However, the 338 Lapua stood out due to its: The 300 RUM has a maximum effective range of around 1000 yards for hunting and 1500 for long-range shooting. Nope upon closer examination it was hitting the same hole. Somehow the idea has been floating around that shooters are made of money nowadays. None of these weapons thrilled me as much as the M-14 in .308 caliber. And to that point, if you compare a 30-338 Lapua to a 300 RUM three is not enough difference to talk about. My uncle was a bachelor and had several rifles in various calibers. The big 50 will send a 750-grain bullet downrange at 2700 f.p.s., then destroy almost anything in its path that ranges from barricades to warm targets. Equipment and components are available in Creedmoor that were never available in my preferred 260, and I know the market is too small for multiple standards. Wild bill u said it better than anyone cud say ur rite I hope we have seen the last of Hillary she very bad for guns and america. But if you are looking for a powerful cartridge that can reach out and touch targets at extreme ranges, the .300 RUM is a great option. Yet, .300 RUM has slightly lesser recoil due to its relatively lighter bullets with lower energy, which gives the user an extra second for sight acquisition. The 30-338 Norma Imp is within a few grains of the 300RUM's case capacity. I completely agree I also have a 300 RUM in a Remington sendero with a night force G7. What u claiming to do with that 3030 I no ther good accurate hunting rifles my cousin shot one out to of a dead pine bout 200yds with one shot he also shot several deer over 200yds but I dont understand what ur gonna do with urs, Lol my cousin shot several deer over 200yds and once he shot a crow out top of a dead pine bout 300yds with one shot for a bet between 2young boys just out having a good time so yes the marlin 3030 is pretty accurate for shooting and hunting, With the leverlution Hornady ammo I can shoot s whole box at 400y steel sitting or standing.its a game changer for that old Marlin, Funny but 3030 is Great hunting rifle my cousin has shot several deer over 200yds once he shot a crow out top a dead pine like 250yds across a clear cut propped on cab my truck and shot him just to see he could hit him that was with 3030 marlin lever action 150gr winchester store bout cartridges, All calibers mentioned would do the job.Its like the old saying,opinions are like assholes,everyone has one,including me.Ill take a 308 Norma Mag over 300 mag.As far as the 6.5 creedmoor,dont know what all the fascination is with it,unless it is just saying a fancy name. It has been a favorite at many Long Range National Matches and is quite unique for a 2nd FFP scope. My next step is to get more educated on this round and start loading for long range prairie rats. I think this is a great blog and love all the dynamics but for most situations I would take my trusty 30.06 and my 1911 .45 Colt or Glock .45. This is an Alexa Analytics cookie that is used to track user behavior. The impact is incredible. .300 Win. It makes it a better choice for shooting competitions, both short-range and long-range. Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 Weatherby 300 which does not seem to kick much. I dont have experience with the 338-378 just 300 Wby and 340 Wby. The felt recoil of a 300 RUM can range from around 25 to 35 foot-pounds of force (ft-lbs), depending on the rifle and ammunition used. However, the effective range of a .338 Lapua Magnum cartridge depends on the specific load used, the rifle and scope, and the shooters skill. 140 g and shoots flat. Admittedly more so than the newer cartridge contenders, the 300WM will always pass The Two Dot Test for ammo availability but, it suffers from 1963 ballistic and bullet technology..short head dimension (ie. As a long range big game round or hard steel target cartridge this is a top contender, to say the least. Even if you reload the 338 Lapua is more expensive than the 300 RUM, brass goes for $2.50 for the Lapua, $1 for the RUM. Here are some approximate recoil numbers for each caliber, using a 10-pound precision rifle and standard factory loads: It is important to note that the subjective experience of recoil can vary widely from person to person and can be affected by factors such as physical fitness, shooting technique, and tolerance for recoil. I make sure I can shoot a few 3 groups at 200 yards offhand with any centerfires.Im satisfied for the day at that point. Goes transonic at 3800 yards. Nosler currently offers three grades of factory loads for it: Match Grade (a 300-grain bullet at 2,550 fps), Trophy Grade (a 225-grain AccuBond at 3,025 fps), and a Trophy Grade Long Range (a 265-grain AccuBond at 2,775 fps). Thats about all that needs to happen for a cartridge to become popular. Ill add that it is every bit as accurate. Bushnell does have some crap but from the legend and above their pretty solid rifle scopes at descent prices worth checking them out if ur in saving money for a good product hope it helps, Guys&Gals Ive deer hunted all my life and I have several rifle scopes from leupold to to Bushnell and Nikon I have a brand new leupold freedom several nikons its best being a Nikon prostaff5 2-5-10-50 my absolute best rifle scope is a Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 3-9-50 its more clear and durable feeling than any rifle scope I have can anyone explain to me why if Bushnell is supposed to be a Cheap low quality rifle scope why does it win in every bracket against all these other rifle scopes this leupold legend ultra hd 3-9-50 is a veryRead more , Smed missed that you had already posted the Wikipedia article on long range sniper snots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_rifle. Still trying to buy it. https://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/reviews-bushnell-4-5-3050-matte-30mm-argon-elite-riflescope-mildot.html, I have already stated in earlier post that I hate the leupold rifleman pos would never own another, Just for the record leupold is way over priced scopes today are just as good maybe better dont waste time and dollars on one Bushnell will not let u down Nikon has great glass for me I really like the Bushnell legendif u can find one ther superb rifle scopes for bout all hunting needs get out ther and try one ur gonna love it, Nikon will fog ,I tried one side by side the Leopold stayed clear I returned the Nikon, bushnell never has had one worth bringing home, I have all 3 scopes bushy Legend nikon pstaff5 leupold freedom and its my least favorite really I prefer the Bushnell legend ultra hd 3-9-50 its mounted on a browning safari 3006 man what a great combo and my nikons are crystal clear no fog at all, Oldmarine >>> Tony Peterson Thats Funny because there an awful lot of Bushnell scopes at International Long Range Matches. Everyone out there in AmmoLand has their idea of the best of the best, and in most cases, it starts with what they own in a rifle, and shoot themselves. Only others hitting 1500 or further were 338 Lapua or variations. Both are popular cartridges among hunters and shooters who demand accuracy and power at extended ranges. Though both cartridges fall in the expensive domain, Remington 300 has an edge on 338 Lapua in terms of cost. On the other hand, the .338 Lapua is significantly longer than both Winchester Magnum cartridges. With the right bullet, this caliber can be an excellent choice for long-range hunting and target shooting. The maximum effective range of a 300 RUM is about 1000 yards. Since both cartridges are for long-range shooting, their accuracy holds much significance. The __gads cookie, set by Google, is stored under DoubleClick domain and tracks the number of times users see an advert, measures the success of the campaign and calculates its revenue. My wife would say NO but dont think she looks in my gun safe very much. Yes, youre correct about the relationship of the length of a bullet and barrel twist. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. The price of the cartridge also plays a significant role while making a choice between the two. That is Leupolds entry level scope series. The 300 Win Mag is also a very good choice for long range shooting, but it is not quite as accurate as the 338 Lapua. When theseRead more , And as I said before,the 260 will out do it all day. Burn rate is close to N170 and faster than our 24N41 powder. went to Winchester page & Carlos used a mact grade win 70 308. I do have other rifle scopes and yes I do really like my bushnell legend its an awesome scope for what I do that is deer hunt I dont just shoot for fun I shoot for meat thanks for ur advice sir. If you are looking for a hunting rifle that is capable of taking down large game animals, either cartridge will do the job. , 180 gr. The RUM has a higher velocity and a flatter trajectory than the Lapua. As a total long range wildcat round with no parent case at all, the round is unique, and the time I have spent behind a custom McMillan turn bolt shooting this cartridge can be considered memorable at the least. Muzzle energy is the kinetic energy of the bullet at the moment it exits the barrel. However, with such high power comes some drawbacks. They have been around a long time for a reason. He has professional training in hunting. I hunt with the Hornady 143 gr. Shooting the 50 cal requires a whole lot of rifle, and in this case, I have owned several, but today shoot a very straight forward Steyr H.S. But what i will say, the money i spent on my Leopold, i could have purchased 3 more zeiss conquests for, i also own a couple of vortex scopes. They are very large company operating in many countries and are very innovativeRead more , My recommended scope for big game rifles is a very affordable accurate hunting rifle called the Bushnell ultra hd 3-9-50 its a very durable accurate hunting rifle for all my hunting needs just a thot if not interested thats ok just my 2cents have a good day, OldMarine, I thoroughly agree. The 408 CheyTac: This round was designed for long-range tactical applications and boasts a very high accuracy potential. That's splitting hairs for on-game performance, but makes a pretty big difference for long range shooting. The 338-378 requires a muzzle brake at all times it seems (I may be wrong) but Im able to shoot my Lapua standing without a brake, it kicks but is quiteRead more . Lets take a look at the performance characteristics: The felt recoil depends on several factors, including the rifles weight, the bullets velocity, and the amount of gunpowder used. The 300 RUM offers excellent accuracy,high muzzle velocity, and flat trajectory, making it a perfect choice for long-range and target shooting. The reduced ones can be substituted with the full loads while going for medium-range hunting to avoid heavy recoil. Later on, with the Model 70, post 1964, I used both 190 grain Winchester and 180 grain Sierra,Matchking bullets with 4350 powder,Read more , You have a great resume I give u because u have earned it my respect sir Happy accurate shooting, You guys on here quite often see me talk a lot bout the Bushnell Legend Ultra hd3-9-50 its not the best rifle scope out there but for the money its hard to beat.im a deer hunter come from a long family of the same we just try to doit good as economically as we can and the legend is a great start for that quest. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. However, there lie some differences with respect to size, weight, velocity, energy, and accuracy. @ W. Bill, Ill second that! Just be prepared for the loud noise and high recoil that come with such power! While both cartridges can deliver excellent long-range performance, they differ in several key areas. By the time this copy goes to press I would not be surprised to see still additional bullets and loads coming to volition. Tom Schiff: I never had the pleasure or opportunity of meeting Carlos Hathcock. You gotta get one. Dial in your rilfe, scope, and ammo using Spot On and you have your holdovers set. This long range craze and supported shooting is of little interest to offhand shooters and wont be as practical as you think in the moment of truth. ALWAYS USE SAFETY WHEN USING ANY FIREARMThank you ALL for helping us make 338 Lapua Armor Piercing Rounds vs Level 3 & 4 Body Armor video. Correct and I hate the rifleman Im old skool when ur turrets freely turn their worn out how do uno wen they really are worn out thats just me leupold confirmed to it wud be ok but again Im old skool wouldnt trust it got rid of it and will try the freedom so far all is ok, I have a 3-9-50 leupold freedom so for its ok but for the dollars u can save them and do just as well my legend beats them all side by side except Nikons monarch line I have one in the 2.8-10-50 my legends glass compares close to it again I say the Bushnell legend ultra hd is a superb affordable rifle scope, Im sorry ther sir but leupold has run the hunting rifle scopes for a long time u can get just as good r better if u look Bushnell has some great scopes dont forget nikon some of the prostaffs all of the monarchs r better than a leupold I have a legend for its clarity it cant be beat on a 308 hunting rifle my first leupold was a rifleman 3-9-50 got rid of it fast didnt trust what they call friction turrets got a freedom 3-9-50 not mounted yet may never but it does seem better than the riflemanRead more , The elites are great rifle scopes but the legend is just as good for less dollars and they have the same Bullet proof warranty I have a couple legends 1 Elite Nikon Monarch leupold freedom a few Buckmasters old and new their all great scopes but I really like the 3-9-50 legend for the warrantyand the money cant beat it. I would have bet money that Butch was right about the 308! The 338 Lapua is a very large cartridge that can fire a very heavy bullet at extremely high velocity. Ive been shooting my model 700 with 4-12 variable Leupold for 30 years without having to adjust the optics for just as long. I found out about them when researching Big Game Hunting in AFRICA. Snipers needed to get past 1000 yards, and that meant turning to more cartridge and more bullet to do the deal. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. What a tack driver. The accuracy mainly depends upon the velocity, recoil, trajectory, and propellant in the case. For deer? The 338 Lapua Magnum was developed in the 1980s for military snipers. The accuracy of a bullet is determined by several factors, including its velocity, recoil, trajectory, and propellant. Marlin .308 and (3.) Therefore they have a substantial weight. The muzzle velocity of a bullet depends primarily on 3 factors the propellants quality (the chemical burn speed and expansion) and quantity, the mass of the projectile, and the length of the barrel. there is a lot of choices for the 224 but need to do a lot of research before picking out the one to get. Quality glass. Thanks for all the information. Both have their place but to leave out the 6.5 x284 from the top best long range rifles isRead more . The accuracy of the .300 RUM bullet is quite high in the range of 700-1000 meters, primarily due to its higher muzzle velocity and flatter trajectory. If so, when plugging numbers into Shooter for the .338 lapua magnum (300 otm Berger at 2750 feet/sec) and the above mentioned PRC load, Shooter tells me the PRC goes subsonic at 2150 while the Lap Mag goes subsonic at 2100.energy is 859 lbs for the Lapua while the PRC load has 651 lbs. i just purchased the Eleminator III and planning on mounting on a 224 but havent gotten it yet. Its, literally, deadly accurate at 500 yards. A 140 grain bullet comes out screaming at around 3,550 fps and still has 1,200 ft lbs of energy at 900 yards enuff for a Deer assumingRead more , I used to think that home was a city, but a visit to Chicago made my small town look much better. Making a more modest round have some staying power is the key to success, but my task is to select each round based on a number of factors that center around the best of the best long range cartridges, so here is the whole deal in an ammo can. The case is based off the 408 Jeffery and has more volume than the 338 Lapua and the 300 Win Mag. Have not pushed it yet, but see the Creedmoor as a round easy to develop with all the choices for it. In the world of long-range shooting, the 338 Lapua is one of the most popular calibers. 1 Creedmoor shooter reached 1500yds, but the rest were out after 1200. It looks like most long-range military snipers used a 50 BMG, but theres at least Lapua 338. best twist rate? 20ft.lb of recoil energy is thought of as enough to cause flinching and negatively influence shot placement. HeRead more , LOL Georgia. There are other hammers but these stay supersonic past 1000 yds and have very little wind drift / drop at distance. Hillary Clinton is still not president and God still expresses his love for you through your pet dog! Cartridges withhigh muzzle velocityand a high ballistic coefficient tend to have better ballistic performance. The lower and average-quality rounds of Lapua cost 4.22 and 6.50, respectively, whereas those of RUM cost 3.46 and 5.30, respectively. Long-range shooting expert, he literally wrote the book, L.P. Brezny, makes his case for what he thinks are the best Long Range Cartridges. A 300 RUM can also be used for long-range shooting, but it may not be as accurate as a 338 Lapua at those distances. Not sure whats wrong with a 243, but as Georgiaoutlaw points out I am lost. The muzzle energy of a firearm is the amount of kinetic energy transferred from the bullet to the target at the moment it is fired. It is one of the most powerful cartridges available today, and it is often used for long-range shooting. doubleclick.net - browser supports cookies. All good cartridges in this article. The saying goes like this. No primer distortion. , 180 gr. Viewing the whole best long range cartridges subject as you care to, in most cases the real heavyweights in cartridge selection will boil down currently to the 338 Lapua. People probably chase the 338 Lapua instead of similar, existing cartridges for the same reasons they ignore the Remington 260, Lapua 6.547, or 6.555 Swedish Mauser in favor of the 6.5 Creedmoor. The .300 RUM has a very high muzzle velocity, making it an excellent choice for long-range shooting. Currently the US Army has gone to this cartridge when chambering their turn bolt Remington 700 action sniper rifle, ( M-24s, ) and when applying a new round to chassis rifles like the Remington 2010 sniper platform, among others. Funny how the 6.5 Creedmoor is in there over the 260 Remington while the Rem goes 100-150fps faster on a bad day. The pattern element in the name contains the unique identity number of the account or website it relates to. I am not a long range shooter but My savage 10 in .243 is good on white tail out to 400 yards with a Burris predator Quest 4.5614.542 is absolutely a fine optic and very easy to see clearly at any range. Thought he said it was a 30.06 at least some of the time. He explains a multitude of different topics ranging from disaster preparedness and wilderness survival to self-sufficiency. Savage .250-3000; (2.) The 300 RUM is a long-action cartridge. I have a 30-338 Lapua Imp and it in a 33" barrel I shoot 3350fps with 230 Bergers. You can shoot right next to a lightly stacked playing cards and they wont move, unless you are so close for muzzle blast. @GO, I can not agree with your statement about Leupolds reputation being on the line with the Rifleman series. No, but a great deal of fun when shooting off the tops of bad lands mud butts at a mile away. In-Depth Look at the .338 Lapua. 30-30,.223. I would not hesitate to give it a go at 1000 yards with the right load. I mean, Id take it 10-1 over the 6.5 gaymoor, Allen a high school friend of mine from Klamath Falls, Ore great athlete became a Marine DI (much to his fathers chagrin as Dad was a USAF fighter pilot) and competed in the Marine annual shooting tournament. On the other hand, the .338 Lapua is a centerfire, flat-shooting cartridge designed exclusively for long-range shooting. For example, the 338 Lapua has a much higher muzzle velocity than the 300 Winchester Magnum. If I could only have two rifles, one would be a .22lr and the other would be a 30-06 or a .308. Further, its bullet size is similar to 338 Federal, 340 Weatherby Magnum, and .338-378 Weatherby Magnum that opens a wide range of choices in the hands of a prepper. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. Im not happy. Further, the bullets size of .300 RUM is similar to .308 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 PRC, which gives the reloader access to a wide range of quality rounds for achieving different purposes. Used for four years and never let me down once. Specs: Thunder Beast Arms Corp (TBAC) .338 ULTRA Suppressor Caliber: up to .338 Lapua Magnum or .338 RUM Weight: 16.9 oz. This length requires a long-action rifle receiver to accommodate it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills. I can add that It is also exceptionally accurate. I doubt very highly that they are dumb enough to not understand caliber type balistics. In terms of performance. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. 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