This canoe has provenitself time and again on trips I have taken in canada, maine, n.h. vt. Probably depends on ribs, etc. You must log in or register to reply here. The '94 catalog speaks of them being available for the kevlar and fiberglass boats so I am thinking they would be form-fit to some degree?? Mad River Mad River Model Produced Model Produced Adventure 14 2006-2008 Explorer 14 TT 2003-2010 . / 431 kg Width: @Gunwale: 33" / 84 cm @4" Waterline: 34.25" / 87 cm Maximum: 37" / 94 cm Depth: @Center: 14.25" / 36 cm Perhaps some solo with fishing in mind but again on small ponds and lakes. The 16-foot Explorer is the flagship model, and Mad Rivers bestselling canoe. The serial number was put on the royalex hull using a black marker. More of the wood confusion comes when documents speak of "hardwood seat trusses" but then in the following sentence mention "standard ash-framed seats". The KA at the end does not count. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbe, https://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic ial+number, http://picasaweb.google.com/scott.broam/CanoeOutfitting. The T-Formex Remake. This may not always be possible, especially when buying a usedone. no favorites. Its a modern hull that does a lot of things very well. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. It might stand for an Airex foam core hybrid but that is only a guess. If you are going to car top your canoe, the lighter the better. 3/26 . Inspiring paddlesports participation through quality coverage of the people, places, adventures, boats and gear, trends and events that make paddling something you'll do for the rest of your life. Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. All the performance of the Adventure 16, with added stability and ease of handling on and off the water. The number is MAD1766M84B-KA. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. We've reincarnated Jim Henry's original benchmark design, the standard for versatile performance, with the all new rugged and abuse ready T-formex material. by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post I plan to dark stain the gunwales and decks and then Exterior Watco them unless they still make Gunwale Guard. TB, Hey RobWhat can you tell me about my boat. Also, any other info you HIN geeks can provide would be awesome. I tried contacting MRC but havent gotten a reply yet (2 Weeks). Mad Rivers prices range depending on the material used for the canoe and the model. The Kevlar/Airex Explorer also had an outer layer of S 'glass under the gel coat which was nice. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? I realize this thread is at least 4 years old, but I am a new comer to the forum who found this thread to be the closest thing to helping me decipher the serial number to a new/old canoe I just bought used. 5h ago . The T-Formex Remake. In rough water a more rounded hull is better. Their heaviest boats are made from polyethylene, like the 85-pound Adventure 16. Ive had a Bell Morningstar RX and its a great boat. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your localMad River Canoe dealerwho can order the part for you. 6,613 were here. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. Its rare to find a canoe selling for less than half of its original price, but when those are listed, they often sell quickly. Is Watco considered an oil? Wenonah - Sundowner - 18 foot fiberglass (red) and looks to have an adjustable front seat. A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. Interesting that craiglist postings are so hard to get a response from. if you could help me id it I would appreciate it. 3/8 . Just FYI in case you didnt know Royalex boats are no longer made and the replacement (T-Formex) is heavier and a new T-Formex tandem may cost $2000 so you really got a gem thats worth more than you paid. pelicanmy last numbers on my pelican kayak is j809 does that mean it was made in august 2009? Its a model thats well suited for a specific niche, but that seems to be your niche. Get Started. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Beyond the ABS is a proprietary abrasion-resistant outer layer. You may still find some of last years models in shops, and decades worth of canoes on the used market. color: tan Congrats! You can find nearby dealers by using their dealer locator tool. 17' Mad River Canoe teak gunals excelent condition, non tiping. 1) Anyone know where I could get the polypropylene, molded end caps, touch-up gellcoat, or even new-old-stock contoured seats?? Its a beautiful canoe with graceful lines, Swifts classic two-tone color scheme and features like cherry seats and yokes. Being a pre-1985 model, the gunwales should also be squared off rather than radiused if they are stock. Manufactured from 1994 to 1997, in Kevlar (55 lbs), Fiberglass (67 lbs) and Kevlar PVC (44 lbs). Best one on the list in my opinion. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe . Since used on gunwales this product must've been an oil so my guess is the seat spacers have just weathered differently than the seat frames, yoke, & thwart as the FAQ states those items were spar varnished. columbia, MO. For whatever it's worth figured I'd better clear this up as to not to calculate this all out under false premise. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Given the information that the ID# of a kevlar boat should have a K also seems to point in the direction of fiberglass. Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? It is a Mad River Canoe with serial # MADE5021L485 (The badeg is aged and so a little hard to read, so that is the best I can guess at a few of the characters!). Micah. The cboats discussion speaks of kevlar airex boats having a raised football-shape on the floor which this doessort of. Does anyone know if I could use a heat gun (oh-so-carefully) to remove the remaining license sticker from the bow? No wood rot. Prices are subject to change without notice. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Sunrunner. Your canoe was built in May of 2000. Thanks. For a 10-day trip we carried about 310 lbs of flesh, 35 lb food pack, 45 lb gear pack (which could loose 10 lbs if I can convince myself to leave our rubber boots at home) and a 20 lb backpack with fishing gear, med kit, raingear, etc. I would like to get my hands on the stock end caps to see how they fit in considering your water-trap concern. 3/4 . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Still on the fence with what to do Micah, you should keep it and use it! Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your local Mad River Canoe dealer who can order the part for you. New listings: Canoe - Mad River Screamer - $620 (Jamestown), Mad River Lamoile Canoe - $1 000 (Hogwaller) in color. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great b They are now up on the MRC website under archived catalogs. The Adventures are express tickets to the enjoyment of canoeing. That said Swift has a Burgandy color standard, and Hemlock makes an excellent tandem that can be Special ordered in whatever color you desire. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. I updated with the photos from the ads. The cane may well be original and 25 years old. sounds like leisurely day trips are the intended use, boat weight can be a factor as we get older. The Mad River is 1998 (seems like they made that model for a short time - 2 years? They were all nice boats, just never caught on out West. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. Ultimately I would. I like the stability of the Explorer but also the deep red color - although chocolate sounds good. They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. Since the change, all the # tells someone is month and year. Sun bleached, 18' Mad River fiberglass canoe. Fully featured and loaded with amenities, they're also very stable and paddle quite efficien. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. Could be good that you didn't find the green and white label Watco since that takes about a month or two to dryI've found the Teak Oil is a nice compromise and dries thoroughly in a day or two. Do not email or textyou MUST call 410 610 5653, 2005 Hand Made, Custom Built, Wood Strip Modified Adirondack Guide Boat. by Kazooey Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:34 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Improper care can cause them to warp or break. Try as she might, shes never gotten comfortable with the traditional tippy canoe feeling, despite my explaining why that can actually be a good thing. 1991 based on the serial number. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. The more I read about glass canoes the more I understand their benefits as in rigidity, sharper entry points (efficiency), and lighter than Royalex which I wouldn't have guessed. We operate 7 days a week fro That is, if I intend to do so. 3/4 . This leads me to wonder about other errors which I can imagine with all the different versions, acronyms, and changing terminology. As of yesterday I had convinced myself this was a kevlar boat judging by how the weight felt as I shouldered it a number of times and put it on the truck. Thanks again everyone for the information. I am trying to contact the person who posted the ad. Spring and fall are the best times to find those deals. Took some photos this AM but have yet to compare with the info shown in the '94 catalog provided to me by customer service. VArious hardware goes with canoe. If replacing Contour or Bucket seats, order from our Canoe Seats link on the Home Page, as they are also manufactured for Mad River Canoe at our specs. See and review all Mad River canoes here. Decked Canoes, Open Canoes, as long as they're canoes! Like the Adventure, the Journey is made with three-layer polyethylene. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Seems weird that it costs $24 when he will sell you a brand new cane seat with frame for $28 but I liked the idea of keeping the factory seat frame on my solo boat. However waiting in their phone queue right now so maybe close to getting some answers?? Timeless and Rugged. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=40923, http://www.edscanoe.com/doityourself.html, https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis70_&dpSrc=srch, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. We are a canoe and kayak livery on the Mad River, in Springfield, Ohio. Thanks for buying that boat. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great boat for touring midwestern rivers and lakes. A glass boat is unlikely to weigh 6 lbs less than specs, and a Kevlar lay up might well weigh 6 lbs more than spec, especially a Kevlar Expedition model. Generally my son would carry that with the food pack and then we did a return trip for the main gear pack. Will look it over tonight & possibly post more if anything is notable. Im tempted to pop over from SW Michigan to buy it just on principle. Introducing the new Explorer 16. The gunwales are square. . Finally back to this project and rereading prior discussion but more questions as the material lay-up confuses me. Here is another twistIn 94-96 the KV versions are listed at 55 lbs however in 97 it jumps to 59 which is just 2 lbs shy of what I measured. If moving it around on land becomes too burdensome, youre likely to find something else to do. Throwback to 2 years ago when we took our new-to-us Sunrunner on its first voyage in a somewhat sad (but up and coming) urban river. 2/27 . JavaScript is disabled. Its an all-around canoe, suited for most uses. You might invest in a can of Watco Teak Oil since you can also use it on the rest of the wood although your wood trim does not look desperate for attention. Canoe Mad River Explorer. Asking $700 for it. Avoid Royalex boats, cross-link poly, or other heavy types of boat construction. 17 isnt too long or short, can carry a decent load, has a little rocker for streams, gel coated Kevlar is an ideal layup - light but semi durable (much more so than skincoat Kevlar at least). This ID# is MADSR921C494. by owner + boats - by owner . Congrats on your new boat! 18 ft. Mad River "lamoille" kevlar canoe. These canoes are a step beyond recreational canoes. If youre considering a Mad River canoe, this article will help you decide which one is right for you. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. 4/13 . Your boat looks like new or maybe better. Theres a significant jump in quality between $600 canoes and ones from dedicated canoe builders. Important Shipping Notice -Due to business-related impacts of COVID-19, replacement parts orders placed through this website are estimated to take between 2-3weeks to arrive in home. Hope you can get it. Recently picked this beauty up for a song. Mad River has been building canoes for almost 50 years. I just found one error in the "Boats By Year" PDF as it states the only KL Sunrunner was in '94 however all catalogs (94-97) list the KL version. The T-Formex Explorer is a bit lighter at 77 pounds. Scored this on craigslist for free! Canoes from companies that have been around for decades, like Mad River, will periodically make their way onto used listings. $38.25. Thanks Grumpus. Ive never paddled a Sunrunner but they have a solid reputation. I recommend the stuff with the green and white label or the teak oil. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Its light for a Royalex boat at 57 pounds if the manufacturer specs can be trusted. It would not be a great solo boat because its so big for one person. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. You must log in or register to reply here. In 94-96 they made KE versions however my 94 catalog does not mention them. Thanks for the great help. You can take it for a week-long backcountry adventure or a float down a local river with your family. They have a broad appeal, so youll find Mad River canoes on Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, Kijiji or other local classifieds pages. I found an older mad river Kevlar 49 and I'm trying to figure out the actual model of the boat. A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. At a minimum, pick the canoe up, and see how it feels to portage it. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. I am curious about the "A" appended to the end of the HIN. With similarly nice weather the last few days I am really starting. I hope your wife likes the color and I hope you share your impressions of the boat once youve spent some time in it. Other than the crack in the wood gunwale near the stern end, everything looks fine. (all the Campers Ive seen had flat web or cane seats), OT Discovery 174 - tough and durable but too heavy. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. There is room for it to be longer so maybe I will start with that and go from there. It was conceived as a replacement for Royalex, long considered the gold standard for bombproof canoes. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. You can also target your search in specialized pages, like MEC Gearswap or a local paddling clubs used boat listings. There is nothing wrong with fiberglass. The regular Kevlar Explorers of this vintage were all Kevlar, all cloth boats (except for the gel coat) so they would have no raised areas on the hull bottom or sides. Nice canoe. 3/4 . With that said and in regards to your comment Gumpus on the Watco taking forever to dry, everything is still quite tacky. Mad Rivers archive list tells what years each of the models were produced but that only narrows down the options to the canoes manufactured in 1997(of which there are several) but doesnt get us to our specific model. Any ideas what they are? No wood rot. Don't worry about the freeboard, you have plenty. I was tempted because it looked like a good deal but already have a Bell Northwind 16rx that I set up for solo. He was selling to move to a kayak as his wife has MS and can no longer manage in the canoe. Just kidding central NYS - 10 miles from the Baseball Hall of F, https://www.cboats.net/cforum3/viewtopic.php?t=7969511, http://www.edscanoe.com/32contourseat.html, http://www.hemlockcanoe.com/repair--replacement-parts.html, https://madison.craigslist.org/boa/d/mad-river-canoe-sundance/6688007830.html, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. Best, Light canoes are a beautiful thing. No wood rot. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Simply looking at canoe specifications and descriptions doesnt provide insight into the small details of how it feels on the water. It consists of three distinct layers. boats. Check out how precariously close the mounting holes are in the thwart. Especially being a somewhat heavy boat when propping the nose on the ground to shoulder. 33.5 inch gunwale width. No wood rot. These are reliable canoes for beginner and intermediate paddlers. Id lean towards the Camper for you and suggest that you and your wife try loading it to make sure youre comfy with the weight. Home run. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. When looking at a used canoe, check the wooden gunwales for any signs of cracking or rot. Another document states that only the gunnels need to be oiled (as apposed to varnish) as they flex but further reading suggests Gunwale Guard be used on carry handles, decks, and seat spacers. 3/4 . If the boat has been sitting they are likely to be very dry and tear the first time you sit on them. The best way to know if a canoe is right for you is to give it a try. The Sunrunner was just a weird design that almost nobody likes, the Destiny is just blah when compared with the Northwind that Bell has, and the Sunrunner and Spirit that . That matters in your situation, more than the seats, gunwales, or design of the canoe. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. They are not as wide, meaning they wont have the same initial stability. Most recently, three models have been built: the recreational Adventure and the touring/all-around Journey and Explorer. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. You should buy the other boat too. Best for leisurely excursions on smallish lakes and ponds, bad for whitewater Learn more about Mad River canoes by checking out the reviews below. color obviously not a factor in performance, but if the wife likes it, its certainly a plus The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Want to know more? 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